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Derek Carr

Raiders quarterback targeted by Denver's defense on several game-changing plays, including the 2015 Harris interception [11]
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Michael Thomas

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"What caused the public rift between Michael Thomas and Derek Carr, and what is the dispute's current status?"

Michael Thomas and Derek Carr's dispute centers on Thomas's public criticism of Carr's pass placement during and after their Saints overlap. Thomas first publicly blamed a 2023 play on a "bad ball" on Jan. 29, 2024 and escalated to a profane X thread on Nov. 3, 2024 after Chris Olave was carted off with a concussion, directly blaming Carr's accuracy [6][2][1]. Derek Carr addressed the Nov. 3 posts in the Saints' postgame news conference, saying he "has love for Mike" but that he did not "really care for" the posts and that he had attempted to call Thomas [1].

Quick Facts

Beef Started
2024-01-29
Status
Ongoing (public)
Key Trigger
Chris Olave concussion
Shared Team
New Orleans Saints
Notable Quote
"He need his ass whooped."
Roster Change
Thomas released 2024-03-13

How It Started

Michael Thomas and Derek Carr's public dispute has roots in their on‑field overlap and early online criticism. Derek Carr signed with the New Orleans Saints on March 6, 2023, creating a teammate window that included the 2023 season when Thomas suffered a season‑ending knee injury on a Week 10 catch that he later attributed to poor ball placement [9][6]. Thomas remained on the Saints roster through a March 13, 2024 post‑June‑1 release designation (failed physical) that made him a free agent [7]. Public tension first surfaced on January 29, 2024, when Thomas replied on X that he had been "set up by a bad ball," explicitly tying a 2023 play to the injury and implicitly criticizing Carr’s placement [6]. That X reply is the earliest documented public critique in this corpus and establishes the pattern of Thomas using social media to call out a former quarterback [6]. The dispute re‑ignited on November 3, 2024, after Chris Olave was carted off with a concussion following a high pass from Derek Carr; Thomas posted a multi‑message rant on X blaming Carr’s accuracy and writing, among other lines, “Dude scary and panic and just throw the ball. Get him the f out of here he so ass,” and “He need his ass whooped,” screengrabs of which were published by NFL reporter Tom Pelissero and reproduced by Sports Illustrated and NBC Sports [8][2][3]. Those Nov. 3 posts are the inciting incident that turned earlier online friction into a widely reported public feud [1][2][3].

Timeline of Events

Timeline

Where Things Stand

As of the latest reporting in this corpus (Nov. 3–4, 2024), the dispute remains public and unresolved. Michael Thomas's Nov. 3 X thread blaming Derek Carr for Chris Olave's concussion was captured in screengrabs and republished; Derek Carr responded in the Saints' postgame news conference the same day, saying “I have love for Mike” but that he did not “really care for” the posts and that he had attempted to call Thomas [8][2][1]. There is no public record of a returned call, an on‑record apology, or a private reconciliation in the sources collected through Feb. 19, 2026. The available evidence consists of on‑record quotes, the social‑media screengrabs, team roster records, and contemporaneous reporting; further developments would require on‑the‑record statements or corroborating sources beyond those cited here [1][2][7][8].

Different Perspectives

The Michael Thomas Perspective

From Michael Thomas's viewpoint the dispute is about pass placement and receiver safety: he tied a Week 10, 2023 pass to a season‑ending injury on Jan. 29, 2024 and again called out Derek Carr after Chris Olave's Nov. 3, 2024 concussion via X posts [6][2]. Thomas framed his criticism as a factual claim about 'bad ball' placement that exposed receivers to dangerous hits [6][2].

  • Thomas publicly wrote on Jan. 29, 2024 that he was 'set up by a bad ball,' linking a Week 10, 2023 play to his season‑ending knee injury [6].
  • After Chris Olave was carted off on Nov. 3, 2024 Thomas posted a multi‑message X thread blaming Carr's accuracy and saying 'He need his ass whooped,' language captured in a screengrab [2][8].
  • Thomas used social media (X) to air grievances rather than waiting for internal resolution after his release, continuing a pattern that began with his January post [6][2][7].
  • Thomas's Nov. 3 posts were time‑stamped and preserved via Tom Pelissero's screengrab, providing primary evidence of his statements [8].

The Derek Carr Perspective

From Derek Carr's perspective the public criticism was unexpected and not representative of intent: Carr said he 'has love for Mike' but did not 'really care for' the posts and maintained he would never deliberately put a teammate in harm's way [1][4]. Carr reported he attempted to reach Thomas by phone on 'different occasions' and said he did not understand the hostility [1].

  • In the Saints' Nov. 3, 2024 postgame news conference Carr said, 'I have love for Mike. And when he does that, I don't really care for it,' responding directly to Thomas's X thread [1].
  • Carr stated he had attempted to call Thomas on multiple occasions but had not received a returned call, indicating he sought private contact before or after the posts [1].
  • On the record Carr said he 'would never do it on purpose' when asked about the play that carted off Olave, asserting no intent to expose teammates to harm [4].
  • Carr's comments were reported across multiple outlets, corroborating the basic content of his postgame response [1][5].

The Saints / Organizational Perspective

From the organization's standpoint the dynamics are shaped by roster moves and public optics: Carr joined the Saints on March 6, 2023 and Thomas was designated a post‑June‑1 release on March 13, 2024, changing Thomas from an on‑roster teammate to an external critic and increasing the likelihood grievances would be aired publicly [9][7]. The team responded publicly to the Olave injury and managed medical updates while players and former players reacted on social media [1][7].

  • Derek Carr signed with the New Orleans Saints on March 6, 2023, establishing the period of overlap with Michael Thomas [9].
  • Michael Thomas was designated a post‑June‑1 release (failed physical) on March 13, 2024, removing him from the roster and altering the forum for dispute resolution [7].
  • Chris Olave's Nov. 3, 2024 carting off and subsequent concussion protocol required team medical updates and a public response, creating heightened scrutiny [1].
  • The organization had to manage on‑record media interactions (Carr's postgame comments) and off‑record player relations while reporters reproduced social‑media screengrabs that amplified internal tensions externally [1][8].

FAQ

Are Michael Thomas and Derek Carr still feuding?

As of the latest reporting in the assembled corpus (through Feb. 19, 2026), the dispute remained public and unresolved: Thomas posted critical X messages on Nov. 3, 2024 and Carr responded the same day in the Saints' postgame news conference, and there is no public record of a reconciliation or on‑record apology [1][2][8].

What started the beef between Michael Thomas and Derek Carr?

The public dispute traces to Thomas's Jan. 29, 2024 X reply saying he was 'set up by a bad ball'—a reference to a Week 10, 2023 play that preceded his season‑ending knee injury—and it escalated after Chris Olave's Nov. 3, 2024 concussion following a high pass from Carr [6][1].

What happened between Michael Thomas and Derek Carr on Nov. 3, 2024?

On Nov. 3, 2024 Chris Olave was carted off after a high pass from Derek Carr; hours later Michael Thomas posted a multi‑message X thread blaming Carr's accuracy for exposing receivers, and the thread—captured in a Tom Pelissero screengrab—prompted Carr to respond in the postgame press conference that he 'has love for Mike' but did not 'really care for' the posts [1][2][8].

Did Derek Carr try to contact Michael Thomas after the posts?

Derek Carr said in the Saints' Nov. 3, 2024 postgame news conference that he had attempted to call Michael Thomas 'on different occasions' and that Thomas had not returned those calls; that claim is on the public record as reported by ESPN and other outlets [1][5].

Was Thomas's Nov. 3, 2024 X thread verified?

Yes. Thomas's Nov. 3 posts were preserved in a screengrab posted by NFL reporter Tom Pelissero and reproduced by Sports Illustrated and NBC Sports, providing primary social‑media evidence of the statements [8][2][3].

Did the Saints release of Michael Thomas affect the dispute?

The Saints designated Thomas a post‑June‑1 release (failed physical) on March 13, 2024, which changed him from an on‑roster teammate to an external critic and made public airing of grievances more likely; media noted the roster change as relevant background for later posts [7][2].

Was Chris Olave seriously injured on the play?

Chris Olave was taken off on a backboard and placed in concussion protocol after the Nov. 3, 2024 play, which drew an unnecessary‑roughness penalty; team medical updates followed, and the incident drove immediate public concern and commentary [1][4].

What exactly did Michael Thomas say about Derek Carr?

In his Nov. 3, 2024 X thread Thomas wrote lines including: 'Dude scary and panic and just throw the ball. Get him the f out of here he so ass.' and 'Dude tried to lie and say I was jealous... He need his ass whooped.' These posts were reproduced in reporters' screengrabs and articles [2][8].

Sources

  1. [1]Saints' Olave suffers concussion; Carr responds to Thomas' rantESPN
  2. [2]Michael Thomas Unleashes Profane Rant on Derek Carr After Chris Olave ConcussionSports Illustrated
  3. [3]Michael Thomas goes off on Derek Carr, after Chris Olave injuryNBC Sports / ProFootballTalk
  4. [4]‘Get him the f out’: Ex-Saints star rips Derek Carr after Chris Olave injuryThe Washington Post
  5. [5]Derek Carr responds after Michael Thomas says he should get his 'ass whooped' for throw to Chris Olave: 'I don't really care for it'Yahoo Sports
  6. [6]Saints WR Michael Thomas Rips Derek Carr on Social Media - 'If I Didn't Get Set Up by a Bad Ball'Pro Football Network
  7. [7]Saints Release WR Michael ThomasProFootballRumors
  8. [8]Tom Pelissero X post (screengrab of Michael Thomas tweets)X (formerly Twitter)
  9. [9]Derek Carr lands with Saints as the NFL quarterback market takes shapeThe Washington Post